Date: 11 October, 2008

10.11.2008

Jack:  Good morning Jim and good morning Phyllis.

Phyllis:  Good morning Jack.

Jim:  Good morning Jack and we bid you welcome in the love and light of Mother/Father God. 

Jack:  I am pleased to be here this morning. I’ve missed the opportunity to speak with you the last couple of weeks although I fully understand what this young woman has dealt with within her family and I honor her greatly for maintaining her priorities as she has.  The loss of one’s child is always traumatic and that she chose to support her husband in the fashion that she did is to be honored.  Well my friends as we have said many, many times the only thing certain about this political season is its uncertainty.

Jim:  Yes it seems to be getting nastier and nastier but an interesting footnote as I was watching the news Friday night they talked about NBC tomorrow they’re going to have tapes of conversations with JFK that they have discovered that no one has ever heard of.  I thought that is going to be interesting to hear.  I guess they are tapes that you made prior to your election. 

Jack:  It makes me wonder what they are going to let out of the closet now. 

Jim:  Yes.

Jack:  I know that the television last evening ran a three hour documentary on the years of my presidency which I understand was quite well done and while not fully accurate in all circumstances will give those individuals who take the time to watch it an understanding of the challenges that exist for anyone ascending to the role of president to this great country.  My friends, it is not an easy job that Mr. Obama or Mr. McCain aspire to.  It is a great challenge and these times are far more challenging that anytime in out history.  It is one thing to ascend to the role of presidency during a time of international conflict; it is difficult to ascend to the role of presidency during a time of economic crisis.  It is difficult to ascend to the presidency in a time where domestic problems are so rampant.  This upcoming administration is entering into a myriad of problems and it will be a true test of courage and a true test of faith in the American people to right the ship of this democracy for the future.

Jim:  It is difficult for me to understand why the McCain campaign is allowing this tremendous amount of negative screaming and yelling from the multitudes.

Jack:  Jim as we spoke some time ago perhaps even just the last time that we spoke, there is negative energy that deeply impacts Mr. McCain’s run for office and as has been shown and discussed, the illumination of his true self is causing a reaction that many are not prepared to see or understand.  Even Mr. McCain is not fully aware of what it is that has driven him in this campaign.  It has been outside of his conscious awareness. Therefore when he sees the fruits of this take place and present in front of him he is at a loss to control it for he does not understand it.  He is left now to do nothing other than undercut his own words and the words of his campaign in an effort to, for lack of a better term, keep the lid on this volatile anger that has been dredged up among the conservative extremists within this nation. 

Jim:  Yes neo conservatives that they speak of.

Jack:  Indeed and this has taken a life of its own that Mr. McCain can not begin to understand.  His choice of Sarah Palin as a running mate was not fully his own choice and was done by those who would see to her having a quite active role in the policy of this nation. It is for all free American citizens something that they indeed should be grateful for that they have been given the opportunity to see this in advance of the election. For it is not unlike what happened when George Bush was elected to office eight years ago except it was well hidden at the time.  The American people, my friends, are struggling to regain a place of honor within their own nation.  There are many who would disagree with me. I understand this but I say to you as sure as the sun came up this morning there is greater cause for hope among the American people today than at any time in history.  There is technology waiting to spring forward to solve this nation’s dependence on foreign oil, to solve the damage that is being done to our environment, to create millions of jobs, and finally the American people, through all that you have experienced in these last eight years, finally have had their eyes opened to say as Mr. Obama so clearly put “yes we can.”  And my friends we will.

Jim:  There is no doubt in my mind that it is going to take place.  One of the things that I observe is that I think the power elite, the Illuminati, the ones that we have spoken of before that helped orchestrate this world wide economic melt down so to speak and particularly here in the United States to keep everybody’s minds off of what is being really spoken of in this election.

Jack:  Absolutely Jim but yet like a caged animal these individuals now are being shown for who and what they are and what they have done not only to this nation but to the global economic policies and the global political policies around this world.  The more the light shines on the manipulation the more they react with panic and they trip themselves up time and time again.  This is true not only for Mr. McCain and Ms. Palin but for many in the Bush administration.  This is true in the corporate board rooms on Wall Street.  It is true in the halls of the Federal Reserve and it is even, although not as well publicized, being seen and being felt in the halls of the United Nations, in NATO as well.  We are poised, my friends, on the brink of great change.  It is still my fondest desire that this change will begin with the election on November 4th.  I say to you that there are still three different pots if you will, simmering to try to prevent the election from taking place.  It is not likely that they will come to fruition, for the American people will not allow any such thing to take place.  But understand my friends that there is truly, truly a very dark side in operation here. 

Jim:  There is no doubt.  Just this economic melt down could cause enough instability to allow the President to invoke executive order and forestall the elections until there is more stability.

Jack:  Absolutely; yet to do so would only insight the American people to rally around the cause of engaging in their constitutionally based freedom and this would only sink the Bush administration deeper into the hole that it has dug for itself.  There is without question the possibility of another pseudo terrorist attack within the continental United States.  But again there are many where we are, in spirit, who are working diligently to insure that this does not take place.  But know without question that no matter how these next few weeks appear, ultimately the change that takes place in this nation and around the world will be one of positive change and enlightenment of people.  It will not perhaps be easy whether it is merely traversing the rough seas of the economy as it is today or whether it appears to become something greater but people will not again easily slip back to a position of apathy and this is exactly what we have spoken of for such a long, long time.  It was my hope that we would never come to a point where so much is at stake that it would take these types of events to call people back to what it means to be an American.  We knew the possibility existed, we had hoped for something different. Be that as it may, we stand at a threshold today of great change and my truest sense is that this nation will, as it always has, raise itself up and move forward into a much brighter future.  I can’t tell you how excited I am to see the technology that awaits, for the American people and for the people of the world as a whole.  Many will fight these forms of energy and independence because in many cases my friends they serve to provide for the needs of the American people while not lining the pockets of those who would be unscrupulous in the dolling out of these services.  This is what has kept alternative energy sources from being used as a common place thing in this country.  If you could generate with a single one time purchase, those things that were necessary to power your home, heat your water, and power your automobile in a self contained unit there is no one who would make money except the American people.

Jim:  A lot of people wouldn’t be happy about that. They wouldn’t be able to put their millions in their pockets. 

Jack:  Absolutely; however with careful planning this can be achieved if not on an individual homeowner basis, for this would be a conversion that would be almost impossible my friends.  It would be costly and it would be time consuming and it would not be practical.  There will be areas in the future that will be totally self sustaining but that time will not come for a while.  But yet if we can move these alternative forms of generating power into the communities and into the urban areas and we can properly regulate and administer how this power is distributed among those on the given power grid think for a moment who all would benefit including those utility companies and cooperatives throughout this nation that make this possible.  The possibilities are limitless. 

Jim:  I agree with you.  One of the things that were brought up in the debate the last time, that I tended to not agree with completely, is that John McCain wanted to use government funds and people to get these alternative fuels rolling and then turn it over to private industry. I say put private industry in competition with each other and it will get there faster.

Jack:  And it should be noted Jim and I couldn’t agree with you more, it should be noted for the record that you would think that if he was indeed a true conservative Republican he would have espoused precisely the plan that you have just spoken of.  Reward those in private industry through tax credits and subsidies who would take the steps necessary to make this happen.  Reward them for putting people to work, reward them and give them incentives for the cost of doing this business, because this is at this time the greatest challenge in making these forms of power cost effective.  There is not at this time a way to mass produce those components that are necessary without assistance from the private sector and from the government as well.  Please note that this is going to change. It will be seen very quickly how particularly wind energy can be harnessed in such a way that entire areas of closely built urban cities can be powered without damage to the environment and at a far reduced cost to the citizens but this will take a cooperative effort by those in private industry and those in government to build the infrastructure necessary and it can and will take place.

Jim:  Yes it is like what is going on with T. Boone Pickins. He’s talking about wind, solar and natural gas and his big thing is we have a tremendous abundance of natural gas and most vehicles that are operational today can run on natural gas if it converted over.  The dilemma lies in the supply line but if we as a government, as a people, start assisting independent gas stations owners, to start putting natural gas across the United States on the super highways I think it can be done very quickly.

Jack:  Without question.

Jim:  I can convert my truck over right now to work on propane and there are places right here in my neighborhood that sell propane, but I can’t go there and put it in my truck.

Jack:  Absolutely.

Jim:  And this is part of the dilemma that somebody is sitting on their hands and saying we’re not going to allow this to take place.

Jack:  And another example my friends and much more easily consumable are the bio fuels.  I raise this issue because the approach to bio fuels thus far, ethanol in specific, has been to use simply the feed corn crop for this purpose. Yet there is great research that has been done that can utilize many, many, many more sources to create the ethanol fuel, leaving the corn crop for its intended purpose to sustain both people and livestock.  If that same corn crop could be well used by making use of the feed corn for livestock, the corn cobs and dead corn stalks to make the bio fuels, does not everyone win?

Jim:  And look at Brazil on how much they use sugarcane to create bio fuels.

Jack:  Absolutely my friends.

Jim:  We can’t consume that much sugar personally but we can use that much sugar to create bio fuels and even those plants after they have been extracted could be burned into incinerators to create more energy. 

Jack:  Again the process by which this is done must be approached carefully for the burning of any component of this process must be done in a clean sort of way so as we don’t create one problem while solving another. 

Jim:  Yes that is true. 

Jack:  Yet there is so much potential. There is great research being done at this time with hydrogen power, there is great research being done with the reclaiming of cooking oil from restaurants and converting it to jet fuel. 

Jim:  Yes they even have groups now fighting over that oil. Where before the restaurant had to pay to have it hauled away, now they are getting paid to give it to somebody. 

Jack:  And if you can create even a percentage of the jet fuel that is consumed worldwide in this fashion think for a moment how it will ultimately reduce the cost of air travel and reduce the dependence on foreign oil.

Jim:  I understand. I am still going to try to find somebody at the ASU School of
Sustainability because I look at this central Arizona project as a way to generate electricity, to grow fish, to grow shrimp, the host of things that it can do because it is a narrow controlled piece of water compared to a lake.  It is just mind boggling the amount of fish it can grow, the amount of shrimp it can grow and the amount of electricity it can generate just by the paddle wheels turning in the flow of the water.

Jack:  And the greatest importance as Americans and as citizens of this planet the time for greed has to come to an end.  I believe strongly that much of the current economic crisis is truly necessary to make people aware of the dangers of unbridled greed. 

Jim:  There is no doubt.  The executive that was before Congress this week, he walked away with over 400 million dollars and they asked him don’t you think that was kind of steep. He said, “no when the company made money I made money”, but ironically he also said “ when the company didn’t make money I didn’t make money”. But subsequently they said that was not true, because he never told the board of directors, but kept taking his big cuts while the company was going down hill.

Jack:  Absolutely.

Jim:  And that is a personification of greed.

Jack:  And I would encourage all of the people in the United States and around the world who are being forced out of the stock market both here and abroad to think about investing in the green technologies that are out there today for trust me my friends this will be an idea that will become reality.

Jim:  It will be the thing from now on, people will be swinging desperately to the green lines.

Jack:  The next five years we will see the greatest thrust forward of green technology and as I stood before the American people on the day of my inauguration and spoke about how this nation could achieve travel in space. Our next president must pick up the mantel and tell the American people and the citizens of the world that we can be energy efficient not dependent on oil from other lands and not destroy our environment.  The technology exists as the space technology existed when I took office. It is just a matter of channeling that energy and those efforts and making the funds available.  And my truest thought is that I would have much rather seen 750 billion dollars go to alternative fuel and green technology than to bailing out Wall Street. 

Jim:  Absolutely.  As a young child, Phyllis and I would probably remember the same thing when we lived in Michigan that, once a week the garbage collector came around, city garbage collectors, they put down a clean garbage can, they took away your table scraps and all your garbage, now all of a sudden people are looking around and saying maybe we need to eliminate the garbage disposal and go back to this.  California, Los Angeles in particular, is already going back to recycling table scraps because they know that it can either generate bio fuels or it can be use as composting to replace the soils. 

Jack:  Yet my friends in the 1960’s and 1970’s there was a segment of society that started moving in this direction, they had good intentions, they fell along the way, but if we can wake up those same individuals who are now in their 50’s and 60’s and say come back home we may just have a very positive change. 

Jim:  Yes I remember at one time I read about someone in I believe it was in the area of Dallas that he was collecting everything, grass clippings and table scraps and putting them into some kind of a digestion system that was creating methane gas, which he would then recycle and use to heat the material. In fact it was something like 20 days he would have compost coming out the bottom and I am like why aren’t we doing this?

Jack:  Absolutely my friend.

Jim:  It is easier to throw it down the garbage disposal and put the strain on the sewer treatment plants. 

Jack:  Of course.  We have taken those things that appear to cause less work as being the icons as a generation.  It is time to wake up.  It will be without question a difficult change for many and this is coming back to the political process, one of the reasons that Mr. McCain’s neoconservative supporters are so angry today is because they recognize that this movement of today will require them to make many changes that they are not willing to make, changes that they are not willing to understand.  These are the people not unlike John McCain himself who do not use or know how to use the computer, who do not use or know how to use forms of technology that have improved the quality of life and communication in this nation.  They are stuck in their old ways and not willing to look at what is right before them.  Many of these people are reacting in great fear and it will be without question the greatest threat to the safety of Mr. Obama once he is elected.  He will be at great risk throughout the first two years of his administration. If he survives the first two years of his administration he will likely be hailed as one of the greatest presidents that this nation has ever seen.

Jim:  There is no doubt in my mind that there are a lot of people out there that want to keep this status quo because they have us under their control and they don’t want to relinquish that.

 Jack: This is quite true.

Phyllis:  Sarah Palin seems to rely on her Joe six pack and my concern is how many of those right wing ultra conservative Christians that she relies on as Joe six pack what kind of an influence are they going to have.  I can see them as the ones that rally behind McCain. If indeed there is a terrorist attack they will immediately blame Obama.

Jack:  Absolutely Phyllis you couldn’t be more correct. 

Phyllis:  My concern is obviously they are operating out of fear. They, like Jim said, are among those who like the status quo, they are the ones who are getting so fired up at these McCain rallies and I identify them with what Sarah calls forth as her Joe six packs. 

Jack:  Absolutely. Add to this the mind set of the Evangelical Christian beliefs that we are in what has long since been referred to in the book of revelation as the end times and there is this segment of that society that actually wishes to call this time forward.  Now as a person of intelligence, it would seem to me that would be the last thing that people would want to invoke or bring down upon themselves or their families.  However we see it with our own eyes.  Expect some surprise in Wednesday night’s debate.

Jim:  The big surprise that I am hoping for is that Barack Obama can actually trigger John McCain into showing his anger.  That is something that the American people have got to see but he’s being coached too much into keeping it under control. 

Jack:  That is true Jim and very honestly I think you are going to see a greater chance in the next 48 hours of McCain’s anger being demonstrated at one of his own rallies or town halls than you will see in the debate on Wednesday evening.

Jim:  That would be interesting. 

Phyllis:  Yes that would be interesting.

Jack:  Because this is a man who truly today is walking on a tight rope and it will take very little to push him. 

Jim:  And my heart goes out to him, he’s done well, he has served our country well and I grant him that.  He has had everything in is own heart, what he feels he can do.  He has been led down the wrong path by an entourage of people as far as I am concerned.  It is just the fact that at this point in our time we need to step in a new direction completely.  Yes he is walking that tight rope and won’t step either way and he is going to make people angry no matter which way he falls. 

Phyllis:  I think that tight rope, I think that there are those on either end of that tight rope because I think that tight rope involves his physical and psychological well being.

Jack: Absolutely Phyllis.

Phyllis:  And there are those who are hanging onto that tight rope who may make it fall one way or the other.

Jack:  Because again what we have seen is that there are those in dark places who would like to see Sarah Palin as president of this country.  Not because she has the ability to lead this nation but because she would be so completely dependant on those who would manipulate her.

Phyllis:  She would be the ultimate puppet.

Jack:  Without question and the saddest part of what has happened to Mr. McCain’s campaign was most recently demonstrated by his own wife Cindy in her remarks attempting to stir up the political base with her words about how Senator Barack Obama voted against her son receiving the funding that the troops needed while at he same time failing to acknowledge that her husband did the very same thing for the very same type of political agenda.  Rather than acknowledging, as a true maverick, that this is the type of manipulation that has gone on in Washington for the last 40 years that nothing gets done because of personal agenda.  This would have given Mr. McCain an opportunity to surge forward in public opinion but instead they have chosen to point fingers at Senator Obama and the Democratic Party for voting against measures without any understanding of the reason that they were voted against, while totally hiding their own voting record on the same issues.

Jim:  Phyllis and I were talking and she asked me about some of the things that have been said on television by McCain. I said you have to understand that when Obama voted for or against something it is generally in a huge bill.  McCain to me had a great opportunity, in this last big thing here a week ago, when he voted in favor of this bail out. By just saying no, I am voting against it, I am against ear marks and this is full of ear marks that I have been preaching against. Yes it would have gone through anyway but he would have at least backed up what he says he is willing to do.  He is willing to walk the walk and not talk the talk.

Jack:  Yet instead of taking such a clear path, he suspended his campaign to return to Washington while spending another 20 hours in New York City doing talk shows.  He went back at a meeting engineered by Mr. Bush to showcase Mr. McCain as the great maverick. While the only one who made any positive statements what so ever, with the cameras rolling, was Senator Obama.  When the first vote failed rather than continuing to stay in Washington and fight for what he believed in Mr. McCain stayed in his hotel room and then left and resumed his campaign, while at the same time pointing fingers at Mr. Obama for quote unquote” phoning it in”. 

Jim:  And at the same time letting the house Republicans and the Democrats, because I don’t know all the ear marks or who sponsored them, allowing those to be put on the bill.

Jack:  Absolutely.

Jim:  I know that both parties are responsible for those ear marks.

Jack:  And they will always be responsible for those ear marks Jim.  They will never, ever be done away with as long as those in Washington on capital hill have to find a way to move the interest of their constituents forward.  They can be limited, they can be overseen.  There is a way that you can do this knowing that it will happen, there’s a way to do it without it debilitating the best interest of the American people.  Give each state x number of dollars in ear marks per session and allow them to use them as they see fit to put forth the interest of their constituents.  Limit it, cap it at certain amount, but allow that to be the chess pieces that can be used for purposes of negotiation, while at the same time not unduly impacting the wellbeing of anyone. Without the involvement of lobbyist, who are making millions and millions of dollars on the backs of the American tax payer. 

Jim:  Yes something like that could be set up, as school districts have set up, where the number of students in school you get paid per head. The percentage of people in that state, x number of dollars comes back and it could actually encourage rural states or states that do not have a heavy population to bring infrastructure into that state and draw more people to their state. I can just see places like Montana. They could have a whole green industry of new people coming there.

Jack:  See what happens when you plant a seed Jim.

Jim:  Right.  The problem is that I don’t know where to go with it and beat up on the head and say lets look at this. 

Jack:  Give this a little time and you will see.  Give this a little time and we will get the point across my friend.

Jim:  Because it would be great, there are a lot of people who live in Detroit who if given an opportunity to live in the open spaces of Montana, North Dakota and breathe fresh air would do so and said “ I want to go up there and work in the clean industry I will go there in a heart beat”. You gave that state the money, then that state legislature is definitely going to sit there and say “you know what, Mr. Lobbyist, you’re not getting any work, we’re looking at how we can bring people to our state and once we increase the population, we’re going to have an increase in the state’s income”.

Jack:  Of course.  Well Jim I think that it is about time that I let you wonderful people get on with your day.

Jim:  It has been a wonderful discourse today.

Jack:  I have enjoyed it.  I have been glad that we have been able to keep the focus as positive as we have. For there is no doubt that we can all focus on the negatives of what is taking place but focusing on the negatives is not going to fix the future. Only in focusing on what positive things are at our front door, can we move this nation forward. 

Jim:  Yes that is true.  Again thank you for being here and wherever you go we know the blessings of Mother/Father God journey with you.

Jack:  Thank you more than you know for this opportunity.

Jim:  Thank you.