Date: 17 February, 2008

Jack:  Good morning Jim.  Good morning Phyllis.

Phyllis:  Good morning.

Jim:  Good morning Jack.  We bid you welcome once again in the love and light of Mother/Father God.

Jack:  Thank you. It is again my pleasure to join you this morning.  I listened with some concern to the words of the one who preceded me for the well being of this young woman is highly important to me as I know it is to you.  It is my hope that she will continue to do well, for I know the work that we are doing together is beginning to make a difference and is beginning to be heard and it would not be my wish to have that change.

Jim:  No, we will counsel her and she will do well.  We just have to refocus her thinking.

Jack:  It is I’m sure, difficult for any of you who are so caring and compassionate in an environment such as what is seen.  For I know that many react with anger to what is going on, but I see in this young woman, and I know in many others the opposite reaction of complete sadness, and that is I think to use terms a little more familiar than the one who preceded me, largely the issue that this young woman is experiencing.  This is not unlike what affected my beautiful wife Jackie.  When one is very open and very compassionate to the needs of others, the suffering of others becomes heavy.  Where would you like to begin this morning?

Jim:  Well is was interesting in the paper today they talked about 1968 and that’s been a concern with me that if they don’t have a clear cut candidate, are we going to have another democratic convention like 1968.

Jack:  This year’s political scene is ever changing Jim.  Even if there are clear cut candidates by the time of the convention, which is unlikely, it is quite likely that there will be much violence in the streets in the weeks leading up to and immediately following the conventions.  The American people are awaking from the slumber of their apathy and not unlike what happened in 1968 they are waking up somewhat violently.  I would hope, because of those who are coming to the forefront right now and speaking in terms of healing such as Mr. Obama and even to a lesser degree Mrs. Clinton.  It is my hope that this will, like when Bill Clinton ran for office energize, the people to turn their energy toward a positive result rather than a violent negative one.  Yet there are many hot- button issues not the least of which is the one that affects your state directly being the control of the border and illegal immigration.  It is important for the American people to realize that illegal immigration is simply a symptom of other societal problems and unless you begin to address those societal problems the only solution will be violence.  The illegal immigration dilemma has been set in motion by the absolute failure of immigration authorities to process those who have applied to come to this country legally in such a fashion as those who will wait for years and years with no resolution.  When you see law abiding citizens who do so, it is difficult to tell those who reside in Mexico that they should be patient and do things the right way.  Just recently on your news there was a story of a woman who came to this county, applied for legal status, gave birth to a child. The child is now in his early teens a gifted student, a leader of his peers, yet his mother is most likely to be deported to Mexico for the paperwork that she began 15 years ago has not been completed.  If we can not find a way, my friends, to fast track legal status for those who desire to do things the right way we set no precedent for others.

Jim:  Yes there’s no doubt we need to work on some type of a program. Basically what we need to start working on to help those down there come here for a period of time and then return back. I think that most of them would prefer to live in Mexico with their families, with their culture.

Jack:  That is true.

Jim:  It is difficult for them to make ends meet.

Jack:  It is yet the system as you know at this time only enriches the smugglers of human beings.  The term coyote was to me something I never understood. To me it was an animal that ran loose in the desert.  I didn’t realize until the last few years the connotation and what these smugglers of humanity have done.  While it has been going on for generations with those coming in from Asia , from Russia , and from the Philippines I didn’t realize the extent of which it was taking place with Mexico .  I am aghast when I see what is being done.  I am even more aghast when I see what is not being done.  I find that in people such as your sheriff, Arpaio I believe is the name.  This man is dangerous to all that this country stands for.  He would have been a wonderful ally for Senator McCarthy many years ago.  It is my hope, my friends, for the great state of Arizona that he will be defeated during the next election for his thought process and his disregard for the rights of human beings is without question a dangerous thing.

Jim:  Yes it’s interesting that yesterday I bought some of my favorite Easter candy with the licorice candy jelly beans being made in Mexico and the other ones being made in Canada but originally they were all made here but I guess this is part of this NAFTA treaty that we got involved with.

Jack:  Yes indeed and as you have mentioned NAFTA, watch closely the responses of Senator Clinton on that very issue.  She was initially a great supporter of NAFTA. She’s now back pedaling slightly as she’s seeing the impact on the economy.  My friends this is not going to be an easy fix.

Jim:  I think this economy issue is going to be one of the big issues that will cause unrest this summer because it has only started.

Jack:  Oh, it has.  You are absolutely right Jim.  The creation of this overturning of the housing market was done behind the scenes.  This is being, has been, and is being controlled by those who do have the best interest of the American people at heart.  The system in this country is designed to feed the rich and starve the poor.  Those who most need the lowest of interest rates to establish themselves and build a future for their families, those who most need the opportunity for gainful employment are the ones who are told that they will not qualify for mortgage lending, they will not qualify for reasonable car loans, they will not qualify for any credit at all.  As a result we have ever developing pockets of poverty while the rich borrow money at almost no interest rate which does nothing to fuel the economy particularly when they are taking their ill-gotten profits and helping to build in places like Dubai .  We need to support the fabric of America which is the working class.  It is for this reason that so many American citizens hear the messages of Barack Obama as messages of hope.  Mr. Obama has tried repeatedly to avoid negative campaigning while his opponent has done exactly the opposite.  Mrs. Clinton talks loudly in her campaigning about healthcare for all American citizens. What she is not telling the American citizens is that this health care will be provided without choice.  You will be forced to sign up for the health insurance that is preferred, and if you do not you will be automatically enrolled, and your wages will be garnished to provide for health insurance, not withstanding the ultimate impact to the American family.  I am not certain my friends that this is what this country needs at this time.

Jim:  No, base our economy on a free market, then the people should have a choice of which insurance company or which plan they wish to be involved in and not forced down our throat.

Jack:  And we need to force, perhaps force is an inappropriate word, we need to require corporate America to provide health insurance for all employees and we should require the insurance companies to make that health insurance affordable.  There is no excuse why major corporations pocket huge profits, pay enormous dividends to their share holders but do not provide healthcare benefits for their employees, or provide such poor benefits at such high costs that they are impractical.

Jim:  Yes, it was just this week that General Motors said that they’re going to lay off or move out so to speak over 74,000 employees with early buyouts and other incentives.

Jack:  Yet, how many of those people would love nothing more than to continue to work to retirement age, draw a reasonable pension, and live out their lives as in most cases their fathers and mothers before them did because most of the people, Jim, in the automotive industry here in this country are those whose families have been in the automotive industry for generations.

Jim:  Absolutely.  My grandfather built cars, my dad built cars, and I’m building cars. Now the possibility of their son being involved in it looks like it is going out the window.

Jack:  Would it not be wiser for the huge profits that are being gained by the oil companies to in turn be somehow linked in a partnership with the automotive industry to create a new generation of alternative fuel and efficient vehicles to move us forward into this new century of ours.  There is no excuse, my friends, for the profiteering of the oil companies on the backs of the American people.  The cost of everything consumable in this nation has risen dramatically because of the cost of fuel.  Yet Exxon just posted its largest profits ever.  I find this disconcerting.

Jim:  Yes and it’s like Citibank going down the tube borrowing money from the Middle East and all over the world yet their CEO left with, I think, $414 million dollars in his pocket.  And I am like, what is wrong with the American stockholder, the American people.

Jack:  They’re so caught up Jim in supporting their families they haven’t got time to look at the news.  This has been the goal of the Illuminati for decades.  It was a systematic and slow chewing away at the fabric of what made this country strong and the American people now stand on the brink.  It is easy to control a nation of starving homeless people.  It is not easy to control the thoughts of a healthy middle class.  It seemed I know strong when I spoke recently of the very real possibility of the United States of America becoming a third world nation within the next 20 years, but, my friends without radical change that is exactly what we face.  There’s a school of thought that says that any democracy can only survive for about 200 years before greed totally destroys its fabric and this is what we are seeing today.  Yet democracy allowed to work will have exactly the opposite effect; it will keep this nation strong.  We have to empower the American family and disempower corporate America .  While the capitalism that has fed this nation well since the end of World War I did remarkable things for many years we crossed the line at the end of the 1970’s and from that point forward it has been a shifting of the balance.  It is going to require great change, much of which will not be popular change.  There will be many who will be angry yet I believe as I have always believed that the hearts and minds of the American people are strong, and either the change will take place in Washington following the election of 2008, or you will see a revolution in this nation that will make the actions of the Civil War seem minor.

Phyllis:  Well 2008 does seem to be an important year for change and I can’t remember what year that this is to take place, it’s not yet but it’s not too far in the future where the Caucasians will be the minority in the United States of America and that in itself will certainly make a change in the fabric of our nation.

Jack:  It will, indeed Phyllis.  The recent statistics that you speak of I believe have spoke of this being the case in the year 2050.  I question whether civilization will appear as we now know it by that time.  Between the ill-advised destruction of the environment and the ill-advised sharing of nuclear and biochemical weapons I’m not certain that there will be that many people left for those statistics to take place.

Phyllis:  You are probably right.

Jack:  I do not say that to feed fear as I have been accused of in the past of doing, but to make people recognize that they have absolute power to change what is taking place.  Many have spoken of the greatest profits of all time going back to the time of Abraham to the time of Jesus to the time of Mohammed moving forward to the days of Nostradamus, Edgar Casey without question each of those who saw the future told the people that they had the power to influence the outcome and if I make no other statement today I want it to be perfectly clear that we the American people, citizens of this wonderful nation and this wonderful God given planet have a responsibility to remember that our fellow man is worth far more than a new Lexus in the driveway, that the education of our children is worth more than penthouses and expense accounts the health of our children, and our elderly is a far greater value than anything that can be built and sold.  You know, my friends, beginning in the 70’s we moved into an age of technology with all of its wonderful time saving devices, its abilities to do things quickly and supposedly to make time available for the self, but like any other positive step forward as the wide spread use of computers in the work place became the way of the world and the way of business, those who held the financial control began to realize that with this wonderful time savings they could simply demand more from their workers.  They could cut work forces.  How many times do you during the course of your week make a phone call only to have your phone call addressed by a computer on the other end? (These, call directing systems.)  It may seem insignificant to you, yet think just in your Phoenix Metropolitan area alone how many individual employees use to answer phones that now do not have a job doing so.  You say, well those people can get more training and move into another position( they can, some have, some are not so equip.)  Those who have moved forward into other positions are expected to work longer hours, accomplish more for the same pay that their predecessors earned and yet, were the technologies used to its proper perspective the increased productivity would allow for a better standard of life in this country.  How many people do you know, and I know my friend Jim, you are one of them, walk around with a telephone at their hip or in their pocket and in most cases those individuals are required by their employers to do so, so they can be reached at any time of any day.  Our society no longer values the human being; our society no longer values the family; our society no longer values community.  These are the changes that will be required to stem the tide of what lies on the horizon.

Jim:  Yes a few weeks ago we were watching, I can’t remember if it was 60 Minutes or NBC News, they talked about a company in India now that tutors American students in mathematics and science because the children here are awake during the day and these people are up late at night in India on the computer.  And I thought, what is wrong with our American teachers, our retired teachers, why can’t we tap into the American tutor.  There are lots of people  here in this country who are retired who would like to have supplemental income working with children, but no, we farm it out to India and I don’t think that those people are making that substantial amount of money.

Jack:  And in reality Jim our American students in most cases can’t understand the tutors that are meeting them on the other end of the phone line.  One positive note is that some of this out sourcing that you’re referring to, many of the large corporations are beginning to recognize that this no longer is serving their purposes and many of those out sourced customer service positions are being returned to the United States .  This is a good thing.

Jim:  Yes.  I don’t know what it is 800-Flowers that they’ve come back and brought all their staff back and quit out sourcing into India and to Pakistan .  This is just a flower company like the FTD florist, it’s like why can’t we start sharing better with the American people?

Phyllis:  Well I think too, when you were talking about what isn’t being valued right anymore in the United States , I think, one of the biggest things that’s valued, is productivity.  The more you can do, the more you get sold, the more you accomplish, it doesn’t matter at what sacrifice to you or your family or community but the more you do the better you are. 

Jack:  Without question Phyllis you stated that beautifully.

Phyllis:  So I think when you’re talking about change, that one of the biggest things that we need to focus on is where we have put our value.

Jack:  Without question.  Without question because contrary to the bill of goods that has been sold across this country and others as well there are things more important than productivity.  It’s a shame that the result of a study that took place a few months ago were not more broadly shared with the American people, that the happiest most joyful and healthiest people on the face of the planet today were living in an island in Bali.  They know very little of the conveniences of the outside world. What they did to feed themselves and their families they did as a joined effort.  They were joyful in their work for they benefited directly from their productivity.  They did what they did for themselves and their families and their community while having plenty of time to celebrate in the joy of being alive because they did not have the influence of the materialism that so plagues other societies in the world.  Now I would not for a moment recommend, that we all go back to such a tribal state of being, yet there is much to be learned from this.  Much for our leaders to incorporate in their methods of leading again. Is it so difficult to reward the productivity at the level where the productivity takes place?  Do we not refuel this economy better by providing incentives for productivity at the lowest levels of employment and moving up from there, rather than merely rewarding corporate productivity by investment in the stock market.  In the long run what has a greater impact on our economy here at home?  If we stop giving the huge tax incentives to the corporations who send our employment overseas, if we stop giving them excuses to mistreat the American worker.  Little by little we may find that those funds will make their way into lower prices, more livable wages, greater investment in community giving to those who are in need.  If you return the profits directly to the society that created those profits, you will find great growth in your communities.

Phyllis:  That’s because the middle class will return.

Jack:  Absolutely.  Now there are many who say that this way of thinking flies in the face of the capitalism on which in the free enterprise system upon which we built our country.  In a way that’s true but free enterprise, like a free lunch, is not truly free. 

Phyllis:  Doesn’t exist.

Jack:  If we do not reinvest in the people who create the wealth in this country, the system will implode and we are seeing that today in the housing market, we are seeing today in the down turn in the Stock Market, thank heaven, and we are seeing that today in the increase in the value of gold, precious medals, and investment in gemstones.  The American people no longer trust the American dollar as well they shouldn’t, because it is as worthless as the paper that it is printed on today.  It doesn’t need to be that way and I hope that people will really listen, really learn and realize that those like Mr. McCain who now says that torturing those within the confines of our patriot act institutions justifies the end result.  When our leaders, my friends, take this nation to a place of passively condoning torture, of condoning and encouraging spying on its own citizens then everything that we founded this nation to escape has crept like a cancer into our world.  It is the kind of work that you do and that those in your circle do that beam some light onto that cancer that feeds hope that feeds the desire to take responsibility.  Know that you have great strength to make a difference. Know that anyone who hears or reads these words can change the future not only of this nation but of this planet.  Thank you my friends and I am sorry that I was on my soap box for so long today.

Jim:  No I understand everything you are saying because we have allowed, Wall Street, we have allowed corporate America, to put our values in a house which is now falling apart, in cars which don’t stay put together. I see advertisement on television that you can get a car at 3% interest if you are a well qualified buyer. What constitutes a well qualified buyer, I have yet to find out. 

Jack:  Your well qualified buyer, my friend, is the person who doesn’t need to be qualified in the first place.

Jim:  Absolutely.

Jack:  And if I can interrupt just a moment Jim, you raised a point that I started to make before and typical of me it got side tracked.  This is precisely the issue that I was speaking of, if you say a well qualified buyer translated to be a person who makes enough money that they don’t really need a loan other than to work off of somebody’s money and we give them that luxury car for that low interest rate but yet the average working individual such as forms the collective, the group that you lead so well, who have had financial issues in their world most often not by their choice or their design.  These individuals who most need that 3% loan can not qualify for that 3% loan. They are in turn required to buy a 5 year old or 6 year old or even older automobile at a 10-12% interest rate so that their payments on that aging vehicle that is not fuel efficient, exceed the payments for that well qualified buyer and they in turn have a vehicle more likely than not to break down and require expensive and costly repairs within the first 6 months of ownership.  Now while this individuals paying 10 or 12 percent interest and these highly inflated prices for this piece of rolling metal, what happens when they can’t afford the repair?  They either are required to borrow more at a higher interest rate or they allow the car to be repossessed which puts them in worse shape than they were before.  Think for a moment my friends, if you were to shift this process in this country.  Think for a moment if the wealthy who have plenty of money with which to infuse the economy were told you need to spend that money in the economy and if you borrow money so that you can horde your wealth we are going to require you to pay a premium price for that money; we’re going to charge you 10 or 12 percent for that money.  If we were to than take the 1, 2, and 3 percent loans and give them to the working class individuals in this country who truly wish to pay their bills and allow them to drive a car that is likely to get their families where they need to go for the next 5 or 6 years, that have built into the cars the greatest available fuel efficiency in many cases, what happens to the economy then my friends?  

Jim:  There’s no doubt if we could get the whole middle class to buy a new car General Motors wouldn’t have any in stock. 

Jack:  But can they afford it, if to be able to do so you have to pay 10 or 12 percent so you can make the bankers richer who then can pay the highest dividends who then can invest more in the oil company’s! Need I say more?

Jim:  Right.

Phyllis:  Would that there would be a bank or a lending institution that would be willing to make that move, wouldn’t that be wonderful, just one, just one to start the ball rolling.

Jack:  Indeed Phyllis and I would say to you again and I believe I’ve mentioned this before, if you want to totally turn this housing dilemma and this mortgage crisis in a period of one month’s time, have the department of housing and urban development issue a requirement to all lenders that all interest rates on residential real estate will be immediately cut to 4 percent.  Instantaneously my friends, 99 percent of those people who are now facing foreclosure would be able to bring their mortgages current, which indeed would build up the resources of the mortgage lenders who would then be in a position to encourage building of new development rather than saying we are going to watch countless thousands of people be displaced from their homes because of usurious interest rates.  This is hurting the mortgage lenders, which is hurting the development of this nation and the only constant throughout all of this discussion has been one thing, and that is the greed of as, the one Jesus said the money changers.  Funny how we are drawn back to the most ancient of current civilization teachings and I hardly thought it would be me who would be teaching today’s Sunday school lesson, but it is a point my friends. 

Phyllis:  It is.

Jim:  Yes.  Colin Powell, where is he hiding?

Jack:  He’s hiding quietly at this time and is likely to do so until after the conventions.  He may in fact have left politics indefinitely.  Watch my friends for news coming out of the Bloomberg camp that may in fact have great ramifications for the current economic situation.  Not for the reinsurance of the bonds as was spoke of last week but as is typical of Mr. Bloomberg. There’s a plan B, listen to it. You will be interested to hear what is coming.

Jim:  Alright.

Jack:  With that my friends I think I have usurped this young woman’s body long enough and challenged her vocal cords long enough.

Jim:  When Amanda comes over today then I hope to put together the email return for the website because we are getting quite a few hits and the posting was put up yesterday from the 31st so our gal Pam does a phenomenal job getting them up quickly.

Jack:  When we are able to start the flow of questions Jim, I would recommend knowing what a soap box speaker I am, that we always begin our discussions with those questions so that I do not do as I did today and that is take absolute advantage of everybody’s time.

Jim:  No but that’s ok.  Today was good. It makes people think of what you’re saying. People read it and they have to start to think and that’s where the American people have lost their right.  They quit thinking. They follow along like sheep.  As you said on the 31st don’t vote for this person because Arnold Schwarzenegger said to or because Oprah or anybody else. Think and read about what’s going on.  It’s interesting, they talk about in today’s paper there’s like over a thousand bills already just in the state of Arizona that they’re ready to put forth.  Arizona people have got to start looking at what are these thousand bills that are coming forth, where have we messed up in the last year that they have to have a thousand new bills put on the floor.

Jack:  Might it not be a great use of tax dollars for instead of the twice weekly flyers that you get in your household mail for cabinet refinishing and swimming pool maintenance that your tax dollars go to printing a summary of all of those bills that will be considered by the legislature for the up coming month to give the citizens the opportunity to become familiar with what is being done and to raise their voices in favor or in opposition.  Yet these things go on today. Yes if you know where to look you can find the information by going on the website for the legislature. Yet how many individuals have the opportunity to think to do that when they come home from work each day.  What if, it replaced one of the sale flyers that you get in your daily mailbox. Might you be more inclined to, at least, if nothing else, use it for bathroom reading.

Jim:  Yes it would be, and the powers to be that are trying to have these passed that don’t want the majority of the people of Arizona to understand what is going on.

Jack:  Absolutely. 

Phyllis:  We still have a right know, though.

Jack:  And the people’s right to know is more properly directed this way than it is in what Paris Hilton had for lunch, but yet you have television shows that tout that this information is what inquiring minds want to know.  No, this is what corporate America wants to distract the inquiring American minds with so that they don’t take the time to think.

Jim:  Absolutely.  Keep them struggling, to come home exhausted, have then eat dinner and go to bed or watch television and then we’ll take care of everything else.

Jack:  Indeed.

Jim:  It’s getting robotic.

Jack:  And that is what was intended Jim and it’s up to the American people to reclaim their heritage and their birth right.  My friends I thank you for this wonderful, wonderful discussion today.

Jim:  It have been good, it has been wonderful.

Phyllis:  Thank you.

Jack:  And my thanks also to this young woman and I hope that my energy can stay a little closer to her to shore up her spirits and make her feel stronger for she is such a gift to all of us.

Jim:  We will do everything we can.

Phyllis:  Yes.

Jim:  And I know all from the spirit side will do what they can.  We will turn it around.

Jack:  As you always do my friends.  Have a wonderful day.

Phyllis:  You too.

Jim:  Thank you and wherever you go we know the blessings of Mother/Father God journey with you also.

Jack:  Be very grateful my friends for all that you are given for I understand that you are very blessed.