Messages from JFK
Date:12 August, 2007
Message: Presidential Candidates-American People-Electoral College-Flat Tax-Jack and Bobby
 

8/12/2007

Jack:  Good morning Jim.  Good morning Phyllis.

Jim:  Good morning Jack.  We bid you welcome once again in the love and light of Mother/Father God.

Jack:  I’ve missed you the last couple of weeks.

Jim:  Yes as we have missed you.  But the website is move forward slowly.

Jack:  Diane I know has begun going through my words of past discussions.  I would urge her to let herself feel the words and choose accordingly rather than thinking the words for she is much like I am in that regard and tends to overthink, which slows her progress.

Jim:  Alright I understand we will share that with her.

Jack:  Where would we like to begin this morning?

Jim:  Well it looks like the Iowa caucus is a circus as I expected it to be.

Jack:  Of course.

Jim:  But I was totally shocked that Mitt Romney pulled as high as he did in the Republican pole, but that is a conservative state. 

Jack:  It will be intriguing to see what is coming.  Watch for a dark horse to appear in this race, one who has yet to declare himself, who will do so out of sheer frustration at the Republican Party.

Jim:  He will be bringing himself forth in the Republican Party?

Jack:  Indeed.  It is questionable at this point in time and I will not name names because there is discussion being held right at this moment between three members of the party.  All from the east coast and southeast who are discussing options for even those who are strong in their convictions to remain staunchly Republican are scratching their heads saying we can’t support any of this.  It’s going to be interesting to see how all of the candidates will move through the events between now and the time of the primaries.  The reactions of the current government to not only crisis situations in foreign policy but domestically as well are intolerable.  Mr. Bush in his response to the tragedy in Minneapolis played the role of the fool using the forum to point out the flaws in the Democratic Party regarding the budget process.  This showed his superficiality, this showed his lack of commitment to the people of this country and many are still reeling from that experience.  It is interesting to note on the Democratic side that the criticisms cast on Barack Obama in regard to questions on dealing with Pakistan have done much to make the American people sit up and take notice for you will find that many Americans share the views that he put forth.  Do you find that a bit interesting as you look at the media portrayal, for even in putting out the messages of the debates and the infighting among the Democratic candidates, the media is still attempting to slant its coverage in a way that will serve the Republican Party.  It makes me wonder and it should you. 

Jim:  Yes I understand but I personally find his statement about what he would do and the intervention with Pakistan not beyond the realms of the rest of them feeling the same way but not having the nerve to talk about it.

Jack:  Excuse me Phyllis when I say there are very few who have the balls to take a stand on anything Jim. 

Jim:  Right.

Jack:  But rather than focusing our attention on bashing anyone lets step back today and try and focus on some positive things.  Again my awareness has shifted somewhat knowing of your intention for the website and those kinds of comments really will serve no one any good, so let’s try and focus in a different direction.  I have no problem discussing these things with you because I find the discussion challenging but not necessarily for public consumption. 

Jim:  Ok. 

Jack:  One of the things in the direction of the political process in this country that I would like to talk about is the need to do away with the Electoral College. While it was the Electoral College that insured me my presidency and I would not be forth coming if I said I did not appreciate that fact.  The time for this process is over.  We need to focus attention on the voices of the people.  We need to focus on those segments of society who do not get represented in the current system because there is great divergence in the opinions of the American People and I wish for everyone to look at the down side of continuing this process of electing the leaders of what still can be the greatest nation in the world.  We must come into the current century and leave some of these trappings of the past to take their rightful place in the history of the formation of this great land.  Like many other things of the past we tend to hold on long past their usefulness.  This does not serve anyone well.  Why should we continue to use a horse and buggy to go to work each day when we have a bus or a car?  Why should we continue to put people in office through a system that is easily manipulated?  I am noticing silence and I find this intriguing.   

Phyllis:  What you are asking for and I understand are the people who have made the leap into the twenty first century and I am sure there are many, but within our political realm I don’t see that.  I see our political parties, the political people who are in the forefront who are the ones that we see and hear about are still well within the twentieth century and I think what you are asking for is that leap into our present century which from what I understand, I am definitly not one who has leapt into the twenty first century myself but I understand that it is a huge leap.  What we left behind in the twentieth century needs to be left behind and the technology especially of the twenty first century needs to be made practical to many of us and especially to those in the political arena. 

Jack:  Without question.  Can either of you in all good conscience find any reason in light of our system of communication today for the Electoral College to exist?

Phyllis:  No I know Jim and I have talked about it for many years that again it’s something that’s served its purpose and is no longer useful to the political process.  Like you said it served you well and it has served many well who have achieved office by the Electoral College. 

Jack:  And in reality I should not have been elected. What was, was.  But we understand reviewing history that I won the office of president with the slimmest margin in history.  A margin that but for the Electoral College would have automatically required recounts.  Much as we saw a few years ago.  What we must pay attention to going forward is security in the voting process.  It is important to understand my friends that standardization in how we vote is not as important as the security of those votes once cast.  There is at this time a great push to encourage people to vote from their computers from home.  This is subject to much fraud.  Yet it can also work well.  You might ask how I see something that has the opportunity to be subject to such fraud could possibly work.  When you take and you blend new technology and old ways you have to find a middle ground for the people on both sides of the fence of technology to be comfortable.  I would urge that every citizen who would choose to vote from their home computers be allowed to do so with an ID number that could be tied to their social security number which is issued only one to a customer with a double blind pin number. In doing this the individual can be fairly secure in the voting process.  Yet a confirming paper ballot then could also be utilized.  The computer driven balloting would allow for almost instantaneous tallying of votes.  The mail in paper ballots then could serve as a confirmation and in the case as an election such as we experienced a few years ago if those paper ballots do not come in for the recount when necessary there would be a way in place to notify those individuals through email that their paper ballot had not been received and request them to do so.  Again it is simply a matter of checks and balances that those who would choose to make the jump to today’s technology could do while still preserving the confidence that they can cast a paper ballot.  Does this make any sense?

Phyllis:  Well what you’re suggesting then is that everyone needs to vote twice, those who choose to vote on the computer also have to reconfirm by doing a paper ballot to mail in. 

Jack:  That would be my suggestion at least for the first few elections. 

Phyllis:  Right.

Jim:  But if you had a paper receipt coming back from the computer just as anybody who buys something on line gets a receipt.

Phyllis:  Confirmation or receipt; that would not be sufficient? 

Jack:  It would be.  This is where I appreciate the assistance of my more technologically savvy friends. 

Phyllis:  We are not.

Jack:  Where I’m sitting I look at a lot of possibilities with little practical knowledge and I thank you both but that is a good point.

Jim:  Yes because that computer would generate my receipt I could hold it and say ok here is my ID number and send a copy of that receipt in.

Jack:  Indeed.  Absolutely.

Jim:  Whether the fraud takes place in the computer or whether it takes place in ballot box, it has been going on since this country was founded.  There are ways that certain people can do things to manipulate the vote.  That’s a given right there.

Jack:  Of course.

Jim:  So part of the dilema that I see with the voting process is in the last twenty five years we’ve driven people to the point where they have to work two jobs and if they’re not working they’re trying to be home with their families surviving and it’s becoming much more difficult for people to even have the desire to get off their duffs and go out and vote.  Using an electronic ballot, eliminating the Electoral college and as far as I’m concerned eliminating the two party system would be tremendous. It would come full circle back the way it was done prior to the civil war.  When the person who got the most votes became president, who got the second most votes became vice president. 

Jack:  I’m not sure I want to go back quite that far Jim.  I don’t know that this country is ready for that.

Jim:  The country’s not ready for it but the political party would not allow it. 

Jack:  Political Parties be dammed.  My focus at this point is on the American public.  I believe that the ideology of the political party system to some degree has merit.  Those running the political parties need to rethink and reshape their platforms and again bring their platforms into alignment with the needs, not of the global economy, not of one world order but of restoring this country to its position of strength within the world.

Jim:  And within its own country.

Jack:  Yes, we can not have that strength Jim unless we empower the American people and right now that is not taking place.  The American people are frustrated, they are afraid and they are disempowered.  They are, for lack of a better word, lemmings being led to the cliff whether they choose one cliff or the other aligns with the political party of their choice but they are running toward a cliff blindly because neither party will stand up and say this is what we stand for.  There is such concern of alienating any member of the voting public that firm platforms are not taken.

Jim:  As I have talked about, this whole process that we go through almost every week here with you but I have told people about it but I said look at history right now since your stepping into office in the 1960’s we have not had one man who’s had the capability to bring this country together in a unified form since your time.  It’s been divide and conquer and this is what I think so many Americans are looking for; someone, as you say, who says this is where America stands and I stand with it 100% and to bring unification back to this country because we’ve lost that.

Jack:  I am honored and humbled by your comment Jim.  I think Bill Clinton came close in trying to unify the people for all the negative media speak on the economy and the Democratic Party in relation thereto.  Bill Clinton did wonders for the economy of this country.

Jim:  Yes I agree.

Jack:  Unfortunately it hasn’t taken too many years to see that completely undone and the hole that we have dug today will take us generations to climb out of.  It is true that there is hidden away in the back rooms in many places throughout the world that continuing movement toward what they refer to as one world order, and the power that stands behind these individuals is overwhelming in its magnitude.  Short of a revolution, not of arms but of knowledge around the world particularly the free world where people will stand up and say we will not be disenfranchised, we are taking back our rights as workers, as parents, and children.  Without this peaceful revolution, my fear, my friends, is the course is set and now all we can do is attempt to minimize the damage.

Jim:  Yes.  I whole heartedly support the idea of eliminating the Electoral College. I support the idea of a flat tax but there are certain factions within this country that will do everything that is within their power to shut something like that down. Until we can motivate the American people to say no more.

Jack:  I would like to make a comment. Perhaps what we need to consider is a grass roots movement across all segments of society that will say for this year I will not file a tax return. 

Jim:  Oh yes that would be great.  I mean they can’t put us all in prison.

Jack:  The dilemma rises however Jim, for people like yourselves and many others who seek refunds from the federal government at tax time who are going to say I am not willing to make that financial sacrifice.  So perhaps we simply encourage those people who are entitled to a refund to file and those people who are not entitled to a refund which is probably 60-70% of the nation to withhold filing their tax return.  Are we going to incarcerate in federal prisons 70% of the American population? I doubt it.  Could the IRS possibly exert its rein of terror that it presently exerts on that magnitude of people who are not in compliance?  Would that not teach the value of a flat tax very quickly? 

Jim:  Yes or do we start pushing candidates to step forward and espousing a flat tax.

Jack:  If any would be so willing Jim that would be obviously the most practical choice but while the candidates are busy fulfilling political agendas not to tread on the toes of the status quo while they run for office we get no where.

Jim:  Right.

Jack:  I know there are forums currently taking place in Washington where the leaders of the respective parties are seeking input in the areas of health, education, transportation, and national security from those within the population who can be of benefit.  This stands to create a great opportunity to have voices heard.  I know this young woman spent some time yesterday speaking with her friend who is participating in this process and trying to find ways to make this opportunity the most beneficial.  The problem is that most people have no idea who these individuals are that are going to Washington at this time to guide these platforms.  The people who are making this pilgrimage if you will should be telling everybody they know, getting input, and bringing documentation, bringing names and phone numbers, bringing case studies to the table to educate those who come into the political process from a place of privilege, who are totally out of touch with the needs of the American People.  I think this process can take place, perhaps not in time for the upcoming 2008 election but it’s something to strongly think about in 2012.  Get the representatives of the people to the candidates who will be running for office.  Open that door of communication so that those who seek to lead this nation will lead from a position of connection to the needs of the American public.  It doesn’t seem like an insurmountable problem.

Jim:  No right now they are leading with the connection of the biggest lobbyist. 

Jack:  Absolutely.  Let the people who are lobbying in Washington be banned if they be from corporations, be banned if they be from fraternal orders or trade unions which are all but defunked except for those that are corrupt.  Let the American people be given the tools with which to lobby Washington. 

Jim:  And the computer is one way to do it.

Jack:  As long as someone is reading what is being said.

Jim:  Yes.

Jack:  Mr. Obama’s website takes comments and each and every day he reads for probably 2-3 hours familiarizing himself with those issues.  It’s important my friends.  Speak from your minds, speak from your hearts, speak of your needs. Do not give the political process the opportunity to run roughshod over this great nation.  Take back the control.

Jim:  Yes that’s true.  We just need to take back the country from the few people who hold it in their grip right now.

Jack:  Absolutely.

Jim:  The economy is going down the tubes; greedy lenders have basically caused the housing problem and that’s all it is, is a matter of greed not only from the lenders, the builders, everybody involved in the sales. It was let’s grab as much money as we can and run and now the money has run out and the housing market is melting down into a glob.

Jack:  There have been two good books in fairly recient history written, I am sure there are others,” The Celestine Prophecy” and “The Shift”.  Both of these works of fiction spoke about personal responsibility in the process.  I can’t highlight that sentiment enough.  You have to be responsible.  I came from great wealth and privilege friends. I had everything I could possible want yet I knew that I was sitting in that ivory tower.  I made it a point to spite my privilege to know the needs of the people that I was to represent.  This flew in the face of everything Kennedy for me to do so and for my brother Bobby to pick up the mantle and do as well.  Yet I did it.

Jim:  Yes.

Jack:  When people are in business there’s nothing wrong with being in business to make a profit and we’ve spoken recently about the danger of letting that process shift from making a reasonable profit to making huge profits for executive officers and share holders to the exclusion of all else.  We’ve spoken about what may ultimately be necessary to bring this country to its knees to a point of rebuilding.  It will take that greed off the table because the haves want to continue to have.  The have nots will always try to take away that which the haves have.  We look back to the story of Robin Hood my friends this is not something new in history, the magnitude has only increased. 

Jim:  Yes.  I think we could get a movement started with Sen. Obama. I’ll email him and get his input on what he feels about a flat tax.  Maybe he needs to step forth and start talking about these issues.  I’ve had people say well you are going to put people out of business, you’re going to put accountants out of business.  Well excuse me. We had accountants working for industries before taxes and income taxes took place. 

Jack:  We had accountants working for Enron my friends.

Jim:  Right.

Jack:  Therein is the problem.

Jim:  They’re money shifters but even before America instituted the income tax, there were accountants working for industries.  They had to have accountants, They had to know if they were making a profit, period.

Jack:  Absolutely.

Jim:  So the accountants are not going to lose but there is a minority group of people that yes, would be affected but the vast majority of corporations of all profitable businesses and every individual would be on a somewhat level playing field.  Pay 10%, pay 5%, whatever it is and it’s done.  Do with what you want with the other 90% but to spend millions of dollars to hide 5 million just so you don’t have to pay tax on it is ludicrous.

Jack:  But again my friends I caution the risk in this type of climate, for if you look at history not too terribly long ago we spoke of the Bolshevik Revolution that was commenced based on the same desire to do away with greed on the part of those who have taken more than they are entitled to at the expense of the citizens.  We walk a dangerous path and it must be a path that is measured carefully.  The flat tax is probably the safest method to preserve the American way of life and accomplish this goal. 

Jim:  Yes.

Jack:  In closing today, for I know this kind young woman has allowed me great freedom today.

Jim:  Yes I’ve noticed.

Jack:   I don’t want the opportunity to escape me again by tiring her too much.  But in closing today I would like to take a moment and move to a positive topic.  As I look at the endeavor mission to the teacher of children on board that space shuttle, my God friends as I stood before the American people when I spoke of going to the moon and beyond never in my wildest dreams could I have envisioned the incredible strides that have been made not only in space travel but what that has provided in terms of technology for the American people.  People criticized me sharply at the time for uniting the American people in such a way, I hate to say the work unimportant, but basically it was considered an unimportant goal, putting a man on the moon.  Now more then ever it is important to go back and find the spirit that I spoke of in that address to the American people.  The spirit of America that says we can, the spirit of America that says we are the greatest nation.  Bring that to the forefront of your political discussions with people.  Remind them of the progress that we have made because despite all of the negatives of current politics and present society the steps forward have been indeed a giant leap for mankind.

Jim:  Yes that is very true.

Jack:  With that my friends unless you have any other questions I think I’d better let this young lady inhabit her own body for a while or she may not let me come back.

Phyllis:  I do have a question though, this is from Diane.

Jack:  Yes of course.

Phyllis:  She said that she had watched a movie regarding your brother Bobby not to too long ago and that she found it to be very spiritual and very metaphysical and she was wondering if that was the true case of this movie or was it simply Hollywood’s theatrical way of getting people to watch the movie?

Jack:  I did, on a few occasions communicate to Bobby and Bobby was open to receive it but unlike this portrayal most of my communications with my brother were in the forms of dreams and in the form of him coming across writings of mine that he needed to read at a given time.  My brother Bobby was quite open and I was able to communicate through dreams with him.

Phyllis:  So in this movie then was possibly the director or the writer aware of the special connection between you and Bobby or was it just, let’s put something out there that showed that Jack and Bobby communicated?

Jack:  Let’s say that the director and the screen writer were encouraged through their own openness to make this known.

Phyllis:  Very good.  So that even though the movie and the portrayal of your communication which also involved your father was not necessarily the means that you had to communicate but the fact that you did communicate with each other is true.

Jack:  That’s correct Phyllis and the reason for this is easy to understand. To have done this in the context of a movie in the way it truly happened would have resulted in Bobby spending 30% of the movie in bed asleep.

Phyllis:  Right.

Jack:  That doesn’t make for good cinema.

Phyllis:  No.

Jack:  And in that regard I know this young woman had a question of me I am much more connected to her sometimes I think, than she is aware of, and if I may I would like to answer that question before we close.  She had, and you may have heard this, an experience, on the night before my brother Bobby was shot as a matter of fact in actuality it was moments before my brother Bobby was shot, with her mother and a Ouija Board that was indeed my first connection with Diane and I have been with her ever since.

Phyllis:  Very cool.  We will share that with her.

Jim:  I was not aware of the Ouija Board.

Jack:  Ask her to tell you the story.

Jim:  Alright.

Jack:  It is intriguing not to me because I was part of it but I’m sure you will find it interesting. 

Jim:  Ok.

Jack:  With that my friends thank you.  I know that I have taken up a huge amount of your day and I apologize.

Jim:  No need to apologize this is what we want this is what we desire to help the American people to understand where we need to go as the people.   Wherever you go we know the blessings of Mother/Father God journey with you. 

Jack:  And with you and we will talk again very soon.

Jim:  Yes very much so. Thank you.