Messages from JFK
Date: 30 April, 2006
Message:Pre World War I, Vatican, and Illuminati
 

4-30-06

Channel: Diane

JFK: Good day Jim.
 
Jim: Good day Jack and I bid you welcome in the light and love of father mother God.

JFK:  Thank you and welcome Jessica I am glad you’re here with us this morning.

Jessica: It’s good to be here.

JFK: Thank you so much for your diligent efforts.  I am aware that the transcribing of our discussion last week was a bit challenging for you and I appreciate your timeliness and your willingness to stick to it and get it done for us.  You are truly an asset for that which we’re doing together and I thank you.

Jessica: I’m sure it will be easier next time.

JFK:  It is not always easy because I know that I speak very rapidly.  Some things don’t change just because you leave the body.  Where would we like to begin this morning Jim?

Jim:  Well, I want to start laying out the groundwork for this whole process that we’re going to be involved in.

JFK: Okay. I believe on some level we have already begun in our discussion last week concerning the events following the civil war.  Are there any questions that have come to either of you following that discussion?

Jim:  To be honest with you for me my computer died so it’s in the hospital so Jessica and all her diligence I couldn’t get the transcripts.  Is part of what we’re looking at again, I know the military industrial establishment took over during the civil war and afterward particularly with the manufacturing of Winchester rifles that had completely interchangeable parts and no longer had hand crafted weapons and it seemed like after that everything accelerated in that aspect of whoever could duplicate and keep on duplicating had the power and had the ear of the presidency or whoever was in office?   

JFK:  This is true Jim.  For even at that time, this foundling nation understood that International trade of weapons of war was a great moneymaker if you will.  The nation struggling to rebuild itself following the Civil War focused its energies on the manufacturing of weaponry as well as the rebuilding of business and housing.  The timber industry became the biggest reason for expanding populated areas of the country at that time.  It was no different than it is today in the areas of the rain forest.  There was what was believed to be never ending supplies of forest land.  Never did the individuals who are making the decisions contemplate the growth of population that we have had in the years since that time and the damage to what was believed to be unlimited resources.  A tree that grows for a hundred years once felled, is not replaced overnight.  Land that is cleared for housing and commerce is no longer available to grow trees or provide food.  We have never in all the years of the growth of this nation learned the lesson that our Native American brothers tried to teach us.  Those in power with greed in their hearts have never honored the Earth and what it provides for us.  This is where it becomes interesting to see how the tables began to turn, for as we focused with the desire for wealth, we began to devalue those things that made the founding fathers of this nation choose to come together.  We began to lose sight of the importance of each individual and the fabric of society.  Even as early as pre-WW1, the tendency to devalue the worth of the worker became clear.  In doing so, we began a very slow process of seeding the fields of the apathy that has now so taken hold in this country.  Are you following me so far?

Jim: Yes.  The example that came to my mind is Andrew Carnegie and his quest for power and wealth and not even allowing his men to have a $.25 per hour raise when he could have justified it easily.

JFK:  Exactly.  The seeds of greed my friends were planted very early.  As we began the trek down this winding road, many important things began to fall by the wayside.  As we consumed our resources, as we mistreated agricultural lands, we began to see the need to control in other parts of the world.  This began early on but it did not simply begin here.  For as we walk down a path of use and abuse, so did many of the leading countries in Europe and Asia.  While it was not as easily apparent in Asia as it was in Europe, the same types of decisions were being made.  As you abuse the resources of the land, and by resources my friends I speak not only of the ground and the water and the plants and agriculture, but of the people as well.  As this began to happen around the world, seeds of discontent began to formulate.  As those across the sea, saw the wealth that was being amassed in this country, discontent began abroad.  The knowledge of weapons moved swiftly back and forth between nations.  And like any young boy with a new toy, they sought a way to demonstrate that mine is better, mine is more powerful, and mine is cheaper to produce.  And where better my friends to demonstrate these principles but in armed conflict?  This was the basis for what we have now come to understand as the military industrial establishment.  This is the connection. 
           
Of course at the time of WW1, there was much desire on the part of those with the greatest wealth, to move in a direction of control.  At that time, this nation was looked towards as a leader, as a peacemaker, as a nation who sought to bring calm in the face of great conflict.  Yet beneath the surface, there were many in industry and in the halls of government who rubbed their hands with glee and understood the ability to capitalize on this very discontent to bring great wealth to this country. 

At that time, there was still a very healthy middle class.  There was a growing upper middle class and there was of course those of great wealth whose families had grown quite rich in the days of the post civil war boom of industry.  This group even then looked abroad to those of like mind to come together to seek ways to increase their ever growing wealth to search for a means by which they could control the majority of the population.  While it wasn’t until sometime after WW1 that the trilateral commission and the builder bergs and all of the alleged secret societies actually put down roots, the seeds were sown.  I sense my friend that you have some questions at this point.

Jim: The basic thrust of it was the fiefdoms of Europe.  It was Frederick that was murdered in Austria, if I remember history correctly, that these internal fiefdoms or city states at the time, some of which weren’t even countries, it was this internal conflict that basically many Americans helped stoke the fire to build a stronger industrial base here.  We’ll build it and let you shoot each other and see how it works.  Is that correct?

JFK: In a large part yes Jim.  And also, it is important to understand that indeed these small outlying city-states or fiefdoms were a threat to the growing power bases throughout Europe.  It was discovered early on that this many independent thoughts would not allow for the kind of wealth and power that was sought.  Remember Jim there are three things that motivate the average man: hunger, greed, and power.  The underlying thread to hunger, greed, and power is of course fear.  Fear that I will not have food to feed my family.  Fear that I will lose control.  Fear that there will not be enough money to support my way of life and desires.  This is the unholy trinity my friends.  It is based on those three things that many of the early conflicts within nations began to form.  Add to that, a capstone of religious condition and you have the foundation to keep the world at war indefinitely.

Jim: Alright.  I can see what you’re saying again, the wealthiest people around the world, whether they were here, Europe, or Asia, if they could keep the basic population in that mode of hunger, greed, and power, and that fear base, they would lose all these things and they would have better control. 

JFK:  That is true.  And now I digress briefly because it is an issue that I know you are interested in this point in time and that is the organization tacitly know as the Illuminati. 

Jim: Yes.

JFK: This obviously predates many of the modern issues that we have been discussing so far this morning for the Illuminati found its base within the halls of the Vatican centuries before all of this began.  I think it is pretty clear that in all of modern history, going back to as early as the mid-1400’s the power of the Vatican has been involved in every level of government and finance in one way or another around the world with the soul exception, interestingly of the Middle East.  The Middle East has always been very resistant to the influence of the Vatican.  And notice Jim that I say the Vatican and not the Catholic Church because there is a difference.  The Vatican is the governmental authority and the power that is hidden behind the Catholic Church since its inception. 

Jim: The Vatican bank and everything else involved in the logistics?

JFK: Of course.  Jessica, am I losing you in the dust here?

Jessica:  A little…I’m trying to understand who made up the Vatican back in the 1400’s vs. who makes up the Vatican now and how they are different from the Catholic Church.

JFK:  That’s an excellent question and I appreciate the questions you bring to this work because while my friend Jim and I are much of the same generational understanding, to have an impact this work much reach those who are the decision makers and peace makers of the future and this is why your questions are so vitally important in making sure we address them as we move forward.

            In forming what came to be known as the Catholic Church there was a small port of initially good-hearted men who believed quite strongly in Christian faith.  It did not take long however for them to realize that in trying to impose their beliefs on others, a means of wielding authority would become necessary.  And so was founded the Catholic Church.  As in any organization, those who emerged as the leaders did so because the power of leading was attractive.  In leading this founding religion, it was determined that funds were needed to allow the work that they perceived to be God’s mission to continue. It became clear that the way to amass large fortunes in a small amount of time was to take them in the name of religion and this began what came known as the Vatican.  The Vatican was these hand picked few who began the process of amassing a fortune, who began what became known as the inquisition.  For if you believed anything contrary, to the beliefs that this organization espoused, torture and death were the answer.  I know Jim that you have done some considerable research on this period of time.  Some of it I know you would rather not think about.

Jim:  Yes, there were a few episodes, yes.  This is the when the Vatican started to really get into its money base in the 13th or 14th century when they started selling indulgences to pay your way into heaven and started accumulating large land masses. 

JFK: Precisely and I could take the cowards way and say the rest is history, but that would defeat our purpose.  But as this whole process evolved, those in power began to see that their actions were coming under intense scrutiny.  The common folk began to rise up and say this isn’t right; this isn’t what Christianity is about.  So those who wielded the axe of power within the Catholic Church at that time withdrew if you will to a more secret position and continued their work behind the scenes allowing for the Church itself to become viewed as more benevolent.  Jim, I am not sure I’m making any sense here.

Jim: This is when the Illuminati took hold.

JFK: It is.  It is when the Illuminati began its quest and began to put down roots into every major power base and every major government throughout the land.  For what better way to infiltrate power than in the name of something as harmless as religion?  And the two went hand in hand. 

Jim: And this again goes back to things that led up to the First World War.  We have individual city state conflicts in Italy even before that because Rome city state was against Perino city state throughout Europe these city states not only had ethnic problems but geographical problems with other city-states and the Church in its way with the Illuminati stoked the fire so to speak. 

JFK: Precisely Jim and this discord fueled in the name of God and religion began to tear down many of the uniting threads of many different societies not the least of which was our own.  And I think that if we have no other questions at this moment, I’d like to pause here for today with the thought of moving next week into the creation of the various organizations throughout the world that have fostered the seeds of war if you will and how this has impacted the people.  Of course in this we will begin to speak largely of things such as the Bolshevik revolution, the various thoughts and ways of advancing power throughout the world.  My friends as always it has been a joy to spend time with you. 

Jim: As it has been for us. A thought came to me regarding the conflict that we’re having with Iran right now…Why not give every country in the world two warheads and say here, guard them with your life because if you use one, the rest of the world will annihilate you.  Maybe they could step back and say you better start treating this more differently.

JFK: But Jim, while the idea is admirable and spoken as a man of peace, it is clear that the very organizations that we are speaking of will never allow the giving up of that kind of power for how can we merge forces and justify committing war in the Middle East so we can secure oil resources if we remove the very thing that we claim to be fighting over?

Jim: That’s true.

JFK: There’s no way that even as bold as this administration is, it would have the courage to say, “I bring war upon your people and kill innocent men, women, and children.  I destroy artifacts and archaeology, I destroy relics of your faith, and I destroy your homes and your families because I want to buy a Hummer.”  But isn’t that what we’re doing my friends?

Jim:  Yes, it’s true.

JFK: We spoke sometime ago Jim of the risk to this great nation if Mr. Bush was elected.  There is no doubt how accurate those concerns were at this time yet now, it also an opportunity.  People are as we have hoped Jim, beginning to come together to speak out.  There have been peaceful demonstrations throughout this great land much as we saw back in the late 60’s.  We see once again the seeds of thought growing in our Universities and in men, women, and children throughout the country.  So, as bad as it is my friends, there may be a silver lining to this cloud.  Encourage people to study what is going on.  Encourage people to become aware of the issues.  90% of the legislation that is passed in Washington and in states throughout the country is done without the constituency knowing what is being voted upon.  If you choose to put on blinders to what your government does, you cannot possibly have a say when things do not go the way you want them to. 

Jim:  That’s true.  We’ll pick this up next week at the point that you talked about.

JFK:  Indeed my friends.  I appreciate again and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this opportunity.  Have a wonderful day my friends and I look forward to our next meeting. 

Jim: And wherever you go, I know the blessings of Mother Father God journey with you. 

JFK:  Thank you.